Different approaches to access to space--discussion

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‎60% of voters support strong space program which means we must fly shuttle until a replacement is operational. Please support the shuttle --the Nation needs this capability. Thanks, Bobby martin --keeptheshuttleflying.com.
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Darin H. Kamins The shuttle fleet is to old to fly. It is 60s & 70s technology, to dangerous for manned space flight. The Orian program will start soon. We went for a few years between Apollo and the shuttle, we can wait for a new safe vehicle for us to return to he lead in space.
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Bobby Martin Orion does not have the shuttle's capability such as payload, runway landing, robotic arm. As aldrin says use and evolve the shuttle. Read The Case to Save the Shuttle by al Richardson on nova. Before Orion is reliable, after its share of accidents, it will be many more years than planned before it is reliable. We have learned much about the shuttle, we should improve on it. The age issue is addressed in the above paper.
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Bobby Martin Also, shuttle exists, facilities are here, personnel available, in contrast to these paper programs that have testing, associated test failures, accidents and accident boards, like CAIB , ASAP to deal with. Think this will not happen? It will likely occur with many delays.
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Bobby Martin Right, shuttle technology can't leave earth orbit, but it can deliver vehicles to orbit which can go to moon, mars, astroids, etc.
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Darin H. Kamins Why use that extra step. A larger pooster can deliver a larger payload directly to orbit. Interplanetay vehicles will not fit in the cargo bay of a shutte. Direct Earth/Tranit vehicles are the next step.
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Bobby Martin We still have assets in orbit that require servicing like HST ,and always will. We will always need a shuttle like vehicle. As far as size, modules for interplanetary vehicles, is the answer, or boost the separately, unmanned and dock with them later. We will most likely always have a station of some kind.
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Bobby Martin With no shuttle, and no arm, how do you plan to repair hdw in orbit.
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Bobby Martin When you get another approach operational, fine go with it, if it fills the bill. But until then, that will be a while, in my opinion, it is does not make sense to put the shuttle in the trash. After all the upcoming development, test and various boards some with logic like CAIB, ASAP, it will be a long time. You should read some of the congressional hearings on shuttle extension. The new approach will probably be grounded be dyer or Gehman, if they are still around fo safety reasons. Logic like it's " not unsafe but not safe". Thanks for the visit. Bobby Martin
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Bobby Martin better give some thought to dev, test,,failures, etc, all programs have them. These low budget commercial efforts will be very likely to have them.
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